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Raleigh show notes - admin - 11-22-2019 [attachment=42] Here are some of my notes from last night's show:
RE: Raleigh show notes - KISSAlien - 11-22-2019 (11-22-2019, 04:07 AM)admin Wrote: Here are some of my notes from last night's show: Jon has done a few live interviews at The Sound Affect recently. He seems fine. He has ZERO interest in ever touring again, though he might do a residency if it was offered. Savatage and JOP are DEAD. He has no interest in revisting them. The band members have never been the issue. They would do it in a minute. Both Chris and Al have introduced the new song as "Say, Can You Hear me Now". It wasn't recently discovered since, as Dan has posted, Dino was flying to FLA to record it when Paul died. RE: Raleigh show notes - admin - 11-22-2019 (11-22-2019, 05:26 AM)KISSAlien Wrote: Both Chris and Al have introduced the new song as "Say, Can You Hear me Now". It wasn't recently discovered since, as Dan has posted, Dino was flying to FLA to record it when Paul died. Nice find on the Jon Oliva interviews. He does seem fine and I can't blame him for not wanting to tour anymore... RE: Raleigh show notes - danfromnj - 11-22-2019 (11-22-2019, 04:07 AM)admin Wrote: I asked about the chances of a reunion and Chris said that he and Zak are ready and they are not the ones saying no. I asked about Jon's health and Chris hesitantly said it was "so so". I notice Jon has kept himself out of view for a while and I worry about his health... None of us are getting any younger and I understand all the business reasons why things are they way they are but it doesn't mean I have to be happy about it. From my understanding, it may not even be Oliva that is holding up any forward progress on Savatage. Paul owned the Savatage name and brand, and he was the decision-maker on when, if, and how Savatage would be presented. My understanding is that ownership still rests with either Paul's kid and/or the TSO management - so it is not up to Savatage to release something new or tour. Paul and his management guys that run the Show want Savatage songs to be presented by TSO. RE: Raleigh show notes - TheBigTBone - 11-24-2019 I attended the Raleigh show and to tell the truth; I have seen better performances from them. The show lacked energy from the performers and whoever runs the show is more interested in wowing than a well produced show. CEAOS was supposedly to be performed in its entirety...it was not. From the beginning I was disappointed. The opener as in previous seasons has nothing to do with the Christmas theme. I still do not understand why they choose a song to open their Christmas show that is not a Christmas song? Great opener would be "Nut Rocker" to get the crowd into it...the Raleigh crowd is one of the least enthusiastic concert crowds I have ever seen in my life...I have seen more hype seeing Belinda Carlisle at the Minnesota State Fair in a band shell than I saw at this show...really. DDB singing 'An Angel came down" was just not good, and then the adding of guitar riffs and other changes did not help the effort, same goes for the instrumental of "O Holy Night"...what a mess it was. "Prince of peace" was not what I was expecting and I was really missing many of the older crew during most of the songs...James Lewis, Rob Evan, Jay Pierce, Jennifer Cella, Tany Ling, Luci Butler, Alex Skolnick, Anna Phoebe, Erin Henry, Mark Wood,...they are all missed. Alex Skolnick is a perfect fit for TSO, as were the others mentioned. I am glad I had the chance to see and am able to remember when they were on the TSO stage. My wife stated she will never see another TSO show but I will. I may be able to get a front row seat next year only needing one ticket. I hope some from TSO management peruse these sites once and awhile to get a clue to what the fans really want. I witnessed so many people leaving in the middle of CEAOS, and watched others playing with their smart phones seemingly bored by the showed...I know I was. This was the first year since 2004 that I have gotten up and left before the finale. Hoping for a better show next time around. RE: Raleigh show notes - admin - 11-24-2019 (11-24-2019, 02:21 AM)TheBigTBone Wrote: I attended the Raleigh show and to tell the truth; I have seen better performances from them. The show lacked energy from the performers and whoever runs the show is more interested in wowing than a well produced show. CEAOS was supposedly to be performed in its entirety...it was not. Form the beginning I was disappointed. The opener as in previous seasons has nothing to do with the Christmas theme. I still do not understand why they choose a song to open their Christmas show that is not a Christmas song? Great opener would be "Nut Rocker" to get the crowd into it...the Raleigh crowd is one of the least enthusiastic concert crowds I have ever seen in my life...I have seen more hype seeing Belinda Carlisle at the Minnesota State Fair in a band shell than I saw at this show...really. DDB singing 'An Angel came down" was just not good, and then the adding of guitar riffs and other changes did not help the effort, same goes for the instrumental of "O Holy Night"...what a mess it was. "Prince of peace" was not what I was expecting and I was really missing many of the older crew during most of the songs...James Lewis, Rob Evan, Jay Pierce, Jennifer Cella, Tany Ling, Luci Butler, Alex Skolnick, Anna Phoebe, Erin Henry, Mark Wood,...they are all missed. Alex Skolnick is a perfect fit for TSO, as were the others mentioned. I am glad I had the chance to see and am able to remember when they were on the TSO stage. My wife stated she will never see another TSO show but I will. I may be able to get a front row seat next year only needing one ticket. I hope some from TSO management peruse these sites once and awhile to get a clue to what the fans really want. I witnessed so many people leaving in the middle of CEAOS, and watched others playing with their smart phones seemingly bored by the showed...I know I was. This was the first year since 2004 that I have gotten up and left before the finale. Hoping for a better show next time around. Hear Hear! So it wasn't just me... Sometimes I feel like maybe I am just bored because I have seen it so many times. I want more crunch and spontaneity... Lots of people left in the middle of the performance. Did you also notice the volume was so low? That did not help with the boring factor. RE: Raleigh show notes - TheBigTBone - 11-24-2019 (11-24-2019, 02:41 AM)admin Wrote:(11-24-2019, 02:21 AM)TheBigTBone Wrote: I attended the Raleigh show and to tell the truth; I have seen better performances from them. The show lacked energy from the performers and whoever runs the show is more interested in wowing than a well produced show. CEAOS was supposedly to be performed in its entirety...it was not. Form the beginning I was disappointed. The opener as in previous seasons has nothing to do with the Christmas theme. I still do not understand why they choose a song to open their Christmas show that is not a Christmas song? Great opener would be "Nut Rocker" to get the crowd into it...the Raleigh crowd is one of the least enthusiastic concert crowds I have ever seen in my life...I have seen more hype seeing Belinda Carlisle at the Minnesota State Fair in a band shell than I saw at this show...really. DDB singing 'An Angel came down" was just not good, and then the adding of guitar riffs and other changes did not help the effort, same goes for the instrumental of "O Holy Night"...what a mess it was. "Prince of peace" was not what I was expecting and I was really missing many of the older crew during most of the songs...James Lewis, Rob Evan, Jay Pierce, Jennifer Cella, Tany Ling, Luci Butler, Alex Skolnick, Anna Phoebe, Erin Henry, Mark Wood,...they are all missed. Alex Skolnick is a perfect fit for TSO, as were the others mentioned. I am glad I had the chance to see and am able to remember when they were on the TSO stage. My wife stated she will never see another TSO show but I will. I may be able to get a front row seat next year only needing one ticket. I hope some from TSO management peruse these sites once and awhile to get a clue to what the fans really want. I witnessed so many people leaving in the middle of CEAOS, and watched others playing with their smart phones seemingly bored by the showed...I know I was. This was the first year since 2004 that I have gotten up and left before the finale. Hoping for a better show next time around.Yes I did notice the lower volume levels. I usually wear ear plugs because I have tinnitus really bad, and even with the ear plugs in, the sound was usually great. This year I actually pulled out the plugs because of the weak levels. I hope TSO management give the fans what we really desire...just once. RE: Raleigh show notes - KISSAlien - 11-26-2019 (11-24-2019, 02:21 AM)TheBigTBone Wrote: I attended the Raleigh show and to tell the truth; I have seen better performances from them. The show lacked energy from the performers and whoever runs the show is more interested in wowing than a well produced show. CEAOS was supposedly to be performed in its entirety...it was not. Form the beginning I was disappointed. The opener as in previous seasons has nothing to do with the Christmas theme. I still do not understand why they choose a song to open their Christmas show that is not a Christmas song? Great opener would be "Nut Rocker" to get the crowd into it...the Raleigh crowd is one of the least enthusiastic concert crowds I have ever seen in my life...I have seen more hype seeing Belinda Carlisle at the Minnesota State Fair in a band shell than I saw at this show...really. DDB singing 'An Angel came down" was just not good, and then the adding of guitar riffs and other changes did not help the effort, same goes for the instrumental of "O Holy Night"...what a mess it was. "Prince of peace" was not what I was expecting and I was really missing many of the older crew during most of the songs...James Lewis, Rob Evan, Jay Pierce, Jennifer Cella, Tany Ling, Luci Butler, Alex Skolnick, Anna Phoebe, Erin Henry, Mark Wood,...they are all missed. Alex Skolnick is a perfect fit for TSO, as were the others mentioned. I am glad I had the chance to see and am able to remember when they were on the TSO stage. My wife stated she will never see another TSO show but I will. I may be able to get a front row seat next year only needing one ticket. I hope some from TSO management peruse these sites once and awhile to get a clue to what the fans really want. I witnessed so many people leaving in the middle of CEAOS, and watched others playing with their smart phones seemingly bored by the showed...I know I was. This was the first year since 2004 that I have gotten up and left before the finale. Hoping for a better show next time around. Who said it was supposed to be in its entirety? They said they were bringing back an all new CEAOS. They played the same 12 songs off of it that they have always played when they presenting this story. They have never done "A Star to Follow". "The Silent Nutcracker", and "The First Noel" have only ever been played a handful of times. RE: Raleigh show notes - TheBigTBone - 11-29-2019 (11-26-2019, 03:42 AM)KISSAlien Wrote:Local classic rock radio station giving out free tickets advertised "see Christmas Eve and Other Stories in its entirety." Tell it to them. I would prefer to see the whole thing done in its entirety. When I hear and see the advertisements for CEOAS, am I expecting too much to want to hear the whole thing? It can be done (they do just about everything else with the pyro, lighting, risers, tesla coils, etc) and to me it should. I feel like I am being sold short when they don't do the whole thing. BTW, whats new with CEAOS? The only new thing is how this particular show is produced and executed...which to me is lacking this year. Again, just my opinion and I still am a die hard TSO fan, and will continue to go to their shows until they either stop touring or I am dead. Hoping for a spring tour of BLN/NC combined.(11-24-2019, 02:21 AM)TheBigTBone Wrote: I attended the Raleigh show and to tell the truth; I have seen better performances from them. The show lacked energy from the performers and whoever runs the show is more interested in wowing than a well produced show. CEAOS was supposedly to be performed in its entirety...it was not. Form the beginning I was disappointed. The opener as in previous seasons has nothing to do with the Christmas theme. I still do not understand why they choose a song to open their Christmas show that is not a Christmas song? Great opener would be "Nut Rocker" to get the crowd into it...the Raleigh crowd is one of the least enthusiastic concert crowds I have ever seen in my life...I have seen more hype seeing Belinda Carlisle at the Minnesota State Fair in a band shell than I saw at this show...really. DDB singing 'An Angel came down" was just not good, and then the adding of guitar riffs and other changes did not help the effort, same goes for the instrumental of "O Holy Night"...what a mess it was. "Prince of peace" was not what I was expecting and I was really missing many of the older crew during most of the songs...James Lewis, Rob Evan, Jay Pierce, Jennifer Cella, Tany Ling, Luci Butler, Alex Skolnick, Anna Phoebe, Erin Henry, Mark Wood,...they are all missed. Alex Skolnick is a perfect fit for TSO, as were the others mentioned. I am glad I had the chance to see and am able to remember when they were on the TSO stage. My wife stated she will never see another TSO show but I will. I may be able to get a front row seat next year only needing one ticket. I hope some from TSO management peruse these sites once and awhile to get a clue to what the fans really want. I witnessed so many people leaving in the middle of CEAOS, and watched others playing with their smart phones seemingly bored by the showed...I know I was. This was the first year since 2004 that I have gotten up and left before the finale. Hoping for a better show next time around. RE: Raleigh show notes - hollywoodswag - 12-17-2019 I was pretty let down by this year's show as well. It was really nice to have the CEAOS story again, even if it meant losing the incredible Christmas Dreams. However, the story portion of the show is becoming about the only portion of the set I really enjoy. Their non-Christmas albums had their moments of greatness, but I feel like the Christmas trilogy exists in a league all its own and is what people really come to see. I remember just how much of a beast the Christmas Jam/Siberian Sleigh Ride duo was from TLCE tours, and the second half of this year's set needed something with that intensity BADLY. I also think that Faith Noel would make for an amazing opener regardless of what story is being told, and it would do a better job of setting the stage for the Christmas-related story to follow. My wife, who has come with me to every show since I moved to Florida (the first year of TGOCE), asked why they kept opening with the number they did. It's fun from an effects perspective, but as a song, at least to me, it's not super engaging. As for the performances themselves, I wish they'd loosen up a bit. Many of the songs were played way too slow, especially the Angel numbers, and it gets to the point where the tediousness of just getting through the song detracts from the display of talent of the performers. I also wish they'd let the performers loosen up a bit and come off less scripted and more genuine, as I think that combined with tempo would give the show more energy without depriving the performers of a chance to showcase their talent. I do always enjoy seeing them, but having done it so many times, it's reaching the point where it's taking on a tiresome nature instead of being the spectacular entertainment I know it can be. TSO is packed with a lot of great people, great talent, and great material, and I'd like to see them put some life back into things. |